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English: I would call my accent modern RP, BBC or General British. That is, my pronunciation of words like "officers" and "offices" is identical, with the final syllable the famous or infamous schwa vowel, the "uh" sound. Speakers of older RP and "Estuary English" are more likely to pronounce "offices" with a final /ɪ/ vowel. I also pronounce "because" with a short vowel as in "top" and words like "circumstance" and "transform" with a short "a" as in "bat." You won't hear an /ɔɪ/ sound like "boy" in my version of /aɪ/ as in "like", though this slide is growing increasingly common. Otherwise I pretty much observe the long "a" / short "a" distinction typical of RP or General British.

Somewhere in all this I would like to say I was a phonetics student of the great John C. Wells at UCL--a fabulous linguist whose understanding, appreciation and explanation of the many sounds of English are unsurpassed.

Latin: which Latin are we speaking? There are no native speakers of classical Latin left alive! Gilbert Highet reminds us that we were taught Latin by someone who was taught Latin and so–on back through time to someone who spoke Latin. Thus there exists a continuum for Latin learning, teaching and speaking which will have to suffice.

Victorian (and earlier) pronunciation has made its way into the schools of medicine and law. These pronunciations have become petrified as recognisable terms and as such will not change, in spite of their peculiar pronunciation. I'm assuming the same is true for Latin speakers of any country.

Medieval Latin and Church Latin again are different. The Italian pronunciation prevails with Anglicisms, Gallicisms and so on thrown in for both versions, though I believe Medieval Latin properly has lots of nasals--think French and
Portuguese--and the famous disappearing declensions and conjugations.

Church Latin and any sung Latin typically employ the Italian sound scheme with the /tʃ/ in dulce, and the vowels and diphthongs following Italian. This is also the pronunciation favoured by the Vatican.

We have some ideas as to how ancient Latin was pronounced at least in the classical period--1st century BCE through 1st century CE which is roughly the late Roman republic (Julius Caesar/Sallust through Trajan/Tacitus. Catullus (died c. 54 BCE) makes jokes about Arrius, who hypercorrects, putting "aitches" in front of nouns and adjectives when others normally don't. We also know from transliteration into and from Greek that the C was a K sound, and V or as it was also written U was a "w". Because the Latin name Valeria, for instance, was spelled "oualeria" in Greek, we can tell that Latin V (capital u) was pronounced as /w./

The metre of Latin tells us how much was elided: short vowels and ‘um’ endings disappearing into the next syllable. We choose to use macrons to show a long vowel where there is a difference in meaning otherwise omit them, but/and given the number of contributors you will find macrons abound. My touchstone is the latest edition of the Oxford Latin Dictionary, and I do not find Google's prime reference to the Charlton T. Lewis and Charles Short 1879 version to be the ultimate authority.

The way classical Latin pronunciation is taught now in the USA, Britain and across the world is very different from the way it used to be, when Horace's "dulce et decorum est” was pronounced with U like duck and the first C as in Italian in the same position, and 7 syllables instead of 5. This was strictly 19C. The "new" method closely follows the work of W. Sidney Allen and his "Vox Latina." This sound scheme is well represented in Forvo as is the more Italianate pronunciation.

One can't be a hard and fast purist, but it makes no intuitive sense to me to stretch out the long vowels of Latin so they sound weird. The rules for stress in classical Latin are quite regular, and familiarity with the great speech-writers like Cicero and satirists like Juvenal, will show off the liveliness and variety of the language. Latin may be many things, but funny-sounding it is not.

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